crito-第3部分
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CRITO: Yes; it does。
SOCRATES: From these premisses I proceed to argue the question whether I
ought or ought not to try and escape without the consent of the Athenians:
and if I am clearly right in escaping; then I will make the attempt; but if
not; I will abstain。 The other considerations which you mention; of money
and loss of character and the duty of educating one's children; are; I
fear; only the doctrines of the multitude; who would be as ready to restore
people to life; if they were able; as they are to put them to deathand
with as little reason。 But now; since the argument has thus far prevailed;
the only question which remains to be considered is; whether we shall do
rightly either in escaping or in suffering others to aid in our escape and
paying them in money and thanks; or whether in reality we shall not do
rightly; and if the latter; then death or any other calamity which may
ensue on my remaining here must not be allowed to enter into the
calculation。
CRITO: I think that you are right; Socrates; how then shall we proceed?
SOCRATES: Let us consider the matter together; and do you either refute me
if you can; and I will be convinced; or else cease; my dear friend; from
repeating to me that I ought to escape against the wishes of the Athenians:
for I highly value your attempts to persuade me to do so; but I may not be
persuaded against my own better judgment。 And now please to consider my
first position; and try how you can best answer me。
CRITO: I will。
SOCRATES: Are we to say that we are never intentionally to do wrong; or
that in one way we ought and in another way we ought not to do wrong; or is
doing wrong always evil and dishonorable; as I was just now saying; and as
has been already acknowledged by us? Are all our former admissions which
were made within a few days to be thrown away? And have we; at our age;
been earnestly discoursing with one another all our life long only to
discover that we are no better than children? Or; in spite of the opinion
of the many; and in spite of consequences whether better or worse; shall we
insist on the truth of what was then said; that injustice is always an evil
and dishonour to him who acts unjustly? Shall we say so or not?
CRITO: Yes。
SOCRATES: Then we must do no wrong?
CRITO: Certainly not。
SOCRATES: Nor when injured injure in return; as the many imagine; for we
must injure no one at all? (E。g。 compare Rep。)
CRITO: Clearly not。
SOCRATES: Again; Crito; may we do evil?
CRITO: Surely not; Socrates。
SOCRATES: And what of doing evil in return for evil; which is the morality
of the manyis that just or not?
CRITO: Not just。
SOCRATES: For doing evil to another is the same as injuring him?
CRITO: Very true。
SOCRATES: Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to any
one; whatever evil we may have suffered from him。 But I would have you
consider; Crito; whether you really mean what you are saying。 For this
opinion has never been held; and never will be held; by any considerable
number of persons; and those who are agreed and those who are not agreed
upon this point have no common ground; and can only despise one another
when they see how widely they differ。 Tell me; then; whether you agree
with and assent to my first principle; that neither injury nor retaliation
nor warding off evil by evil is ever right。 And shall that be the premiss
of our argument? Or do you decline and dissent from this? For so I have
ever thought; and continue to think; but; if you are of another opinion;
let me hear what you have to say。 If; however; you remain of the same mind
as formerly; I will proceed to the next step。
CRITO: You may proceed; for I have not changed my mind。
SOCRATES: Then I will go on to the next point; which may be put in the
form of a question:Ought a man to do what he admits to be right; or ought
he to betray the right?
CRITO: He ought to do what he thinks right。
SOCRATES: But if this is true; what is the application? In leaving the
prison against the will of the Athenians; do I wrong any? or rather do I
not wrong those whom I ought least to wrong? Do I not desert the
principles which were acknowledged by us to be justwhat do you say?
CRITO: I cannot tell; Socrates; for I do not know。
SOCRATES: Then consider the matter in this way:Imagine that I am about
to play truant (you may call the proceeding by any name which you like);
and the laws and the government come and interrogate me: 'Tell us;
Socrates;' they say; 'what are you about? are you not going by an act of
yours to overturn usthe laws; and the whole state; as far as in you lies?
Do you imagine that a state can subsist and not be overthrown; in which the
decisions of law have no power; but are set aside and trampled upon by
individuals?' What will be our answer; Crito; to these and the like words?
Any one; and especially a rhetorician; will have a good deal to say on
behalf of the law which requires a sentence to be carried out。 He will
argue that this law should not be set aside; and shall we reply; 'Yes; but
the state has injured us and given an unjust sentence。' Suppose I say
that?
CRITO: Very good; Socrates。
SOCRATES: 'And was that our agreement with you?' the law would answer; 'or
were you to abide by the sentence of the state?' And if I were to express
my astonishment at their words; the law would probably add: 'Answer;
Socrates; instead of opening your eyesyou are in the habit of asking and
answering questions。 Tell us;What complaint have you to make against us
which justifies you in attempting to destroy us and the state? In the
first place did we not bring you into existence? Your father married your
mother by our aid and begat you。 Say whether you have any objection to
urge against those of us who regulate marriage?' None; I should reply。
'Or against those of us who after birth regulate the nurture and education
of children; in which you also were trained? Were not the laws; which have
the charge of education; right in commanding your father to train you in
music and gymnastic?' Right; I should reply。 'Well then; since you were
brought into the world and nurtured and educated by us; can you deny in the
first place that you are our child and slave; as your fathers were before
you? And if this is true you are not on equal terms with us; nor can you
think that you have a right to do to us what we are doing to you。 Would
you have any right to strike or revile or do any other evil to your father
or your master; if you had one; because you have been struck or reviled by
him; or received some other evil at his hands?you would not say this?
And because we think right to destroy you; do you think that you have any
right to destroy us in return; and your country as far as in you lies?
Will you; O professor of true virtue; pretend that you are justified in
this? Has a philosopher like you failed to discover that our country is
more to be valued and higher and holier far than mother or father or any
ancestor; and more to be regarded in the eyes of the gods and of men of
understanding? also to be soothed; and gently and reverently entreated when
angry; even more than a father; and either to be persuaded; or if not
persuaded; to be obeyed? And when we are punished by her; whether with
imprisonment or stripes; the punishment is to be endured in silence; and if
she lead us to wounds or death in battle; thither we follow as is right;
neither may any one yield or retreat or leave his rank; but whether in
battle or in a court of law; or in any other place; he must do what his
city and his country order him; or he must change their view of what is
just: and if he may do no violence to his father or mother; much less may
he do violence to his country。' What answer shall we make to this; Crito?
Do the laws speak truly; or do they not?
CRITO: I think that they do。
SOCRATES: Then the laws will say: 'Consider; Socrates; if we are speaking
truly that in your present attempt you are going to do us an injury。 For;
having brought you into the world; and nurtured and educated you; and given
you and every other citizen a share in every good which we had to give; we
further proclaim to any Athenian by the liberty which we allow him; that if
he does not like us when he has become of age and has seen the ways of the
city; and made our acquaintance; he may go where he pleases and take his
goods with him。 None of us laws will forbid him or interfere with him。
Any one who does not like us and the city; and who wants to emigrate to a
colony or to any other city; may go where he likes; retaining his property。
But he who has experience of the manner in which we order justice and
administer the state; and still remains; has entered into an implied
contract that he will do as we command him。 And he who disobeys us is; as
we maintain; thrice wrong: first; because in disobeying us he is
disobeying his parents; secondly; because we are the authors of his
education; thirdly; because he has made an agreement with us that he will
duly obey our commands; and he neither obeys them nor convinces us that our
commands are unjust; and we do not rudely impose them; but give him the
alternative of obeying or convincing us;that is what we offer; and he
does neither。
'These are the sort of accusations to which; as we were saying; you;
Socrates; will be exposed if you accomplish your intentions; you; above all
other Athenians。' Suppose now I ask; why I rather than anybody else? they
will justly retort upon me that I above all other men have acknowledged the
agreement。 'There is clear proof;' they will say; 'Socrates; that we and
the city were not displeasing to you。 Of all Athenians you have been the
most constant resident in the city; which; as you